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Thursday, August 2, 2012

- A Very Intelligent Response ...



- I recently posted a piece in response to the strong opinions being voiced all over FB, regarding religion & creationism vs. science and evolution. From the wonderfully intelligent and articulate Adam Golden, I give you the most powerful and passionate comment ever posted on my blog ...

                                        https://www.facebook.com/adam.golden.37017

      

 Ok, starting from the top. It’s true that no one really knows. However once upon a time no one really knew the shape of the earth, whether the earth revolved around the sun, or vice versa. In those times I’m sure that there were those that said “ What does it matter anyway?” but due to the questioning of a few intrepid questioners who studied, explored, and made educated assumptions based on observable realities eventually both of those unknowable questions were answered. 



 What does it matter? Why is the debate important? It’s important because what we have here is two diametrically opposed systems of thought, both of which deal with the most important questions of human reality, and only one of which can be correct. The first system is one based on reasoned careful study of secular data such as history, physics, geology, palaeontology and a host of other scientific disciplines which are themselves based on carefully gathered factual information which can be tested, proved or disproved and reproduced at will. This first system tells us that both the creation of the universe, and the creation and development of our race, and all other species was a slow process of trial and error over trillions of years. Ultimately culminating in a set of circumstances just right for our development and growth as a species. 



 The second system is based on a few texts written in an age when superstition supernaturalism and mysticism were rampant on the earth. This system requires that it’s adherents accept it’s teachings and principles absolutely, without the benefit of demonstrable facts, or corroborating evidence. It values obedience over exploration, acceptance of doctrine over critical reasoning and has throughout history taken the view that all truth comes from itself and no other source. It is a system committed to the suppression of facts which don’t conform to it’s stated truths. A system which has throughout human history suppressed, persecuted, and even murdered those who have proven, with hard evidence, the fact that their doctrines are incorrect. 



 If that weren’t enough there is more than one variation of the second system. Each one absolutely certain that it is the “one true faith” and so these various faiths war against each other as well as against the secular system. Often these are symbolic wars such as the war against contraception or the war against medical intervention, but just as often these conflicts are literal wars. The Iran/Iraq war, the Serbian conflict, the various African religious genocides, and most notably the Crusades to name a few. Whether literal or symbolic the cost of these wars in both material and Human lives is shockingly sickeningly high. 



 Why does it matter? Because in an age where we control weapons capable of demolishing whole cities at a go, in a time when we can control viruses of such lethality that they can kill tens of millions in a matter of days we can not afford to look at the world through any lense but that of hard, proven fact. We cannot afford to have an electorate who believe that the prophesized end of days is close at hand and welcome it. We cannot afford to have leaders who believe that their god is on their side and so they can do no wrong. In an age when our understanding of ourselves, our world, and the universe has reached heights undreamed of by any age before us we are beginning to have the ability to truly understand the miraculous scope and depth of the wonders of reality. Through our telescopes and microscopes we have the ability to witness wonders and truths which should relegate the posturing gods of the old books to insignificance. But rather than this being the case what we have is a world of religious moderates who are quick to distance themselves from the distasteful parts of their own literature, to separate themselves from the “radical” practitioners of their faiths ( who more often than not are doing no more than holding true to a literal reading of those same texts) and instead what was once literal fact is transmuted into metaphor meant to be interpreted. “ Ok so we were wrong about that, but the rest is absolutely true.” or “ You can’t take it literally, it’s meant to be interpreted” become the common refrains of these moderates who hold to their beliefs more out of tradition or apathy than any real faith. 



 Why does it matter? Because followers of this second system demand the right to have their faith held up in our institutions of learning along side subjects such as math and science, as though they share a level of truth or veracity. Because whole generations of children are raised to believe that faith is more important than evidence. That if your faith and your reason come into conflict it is your reason that is at fault. That morality comes from faith and without faith there would be no morality, completely ignoring the fact that most of the most heinous offences against morality in human history can be directly traced back to faith of one type or another. 



 Why does it matter? Because we have been ruled by fear and superstition for too long! Because the age of knowledge and reason so long sought by so many is upon us and it is no longer necessary to lean on the crutch of supernaturalism for support. It is important because the world is faced by real problems and god (allah, vishnu, thor, imhotep, whatever) is not going to save us. Science might save us, reason might save us, a critical, thoughtful educated outlook on reality might save us, but only if we can put aside the antiquated ideas that limit and divide so many of us and concentrate on the simple secular truth that nothing is going to happen unless we make it happen. 



 No one really knows but isn’t working toward discovery through study, the application of reason and the gathering and testing of observable fact a better, nobler and more productive use of our time and energy than clinging to outdated parables and social strictures because we fear a death we don’t understand or because we’ve fallen prey to the crippling belief that we are somehow incapable of anything glorious in and of ourselves? It’s time to reclaim the power we, somewhere along the line, ceded to some outside caregiver. 


 Those two scientists at the beginning to of the blog both stated that their work led to more questions. Just because we don’t have the answers doesn’t mean they aren’t out there, and just because we don’t understand a thing doesn’t make it divine or magical. If religion had had it’s way neither of those learned and exceptional men would have been allowed to seek their answers let alone find them. All exploration and experimentation would have long ago ceased because all that we need to know was set down for us by shepherds and fishermen twenty centuries beforehand. All logical thought would be suspended in favour of mysticism and subjugation to invisible spirits, and THAT is why it matters!!


 - While I'm certain, many of the people who've read my blog may be deeply bothered by some of the things written here, I hope you consider the ideas of the generation coming behind us ...

   Love; S.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are both okay? Hey look, don't get me wrong... I'm a double-blind study kinda person. But, while waiting for the results, I rely on my faith to get me through! Golden, I read with relish your well thought out responses. Articulate, insightful and with sound reasoning to back up your stance, while not bashing others. Stacey, I'm glad you saw that this post was worth the read... and the discernment. But maybe, just maybe... there's those who stand with a foot on both sides of the line! Not just an 'if you're not with me you're against me' way to think. And, why not?

It matters... of course it matters. This debate provides the impetus to have meaningful discourse over that which has caused humanity to bring the best and worst out in itself. Believe or Don't Believe? Creation or Evolution? By and by, humanity evolves their thinking, as Golden aptly points out. And we can handily see how living things evolve over time to adapt to their environment in order to survive. So, do I (and many other educated, uneducated, intelligent, simple, burdened, unburdened... humans who also believe in a 'higher being / power') believe in evolution. Of course! It's blatantly apparent!

But (you know there's always a 'but') under the things-that-make-you-go-'hmmmmm' department, there are very real and documented happenings that all the see-touch-feel-hear-smell-know kind of logic in the world doesn't explain. Oh sure, I could go on to list some, or tell you about the one I've personally experienced, but that would only throw the conversation into the proving or disproving of these events (you know some of you would 'go there') and sidetrack the point. The higher thinking is... maybe, just maybe... it isn't one or the other. Maybe it's both!

I picture a Belief Venn diagram! Simple, nope. Possible, yep. Why Golden, even you refer to something 'miraculous' ;-) Don't mean to catch you up... my case in point is 'why not?'! Why not come to the understanding that the validity of see-touch-feel-hear-smell-know (and this includes know that you don't know and seek to find out) can give us a good moral compass, and produce new discoveries for the masses, and move us toward acceptance of differences, and support of intolerance for bigotry, hate and oppression? Why not come to the understanding that a higher power (which is recognized in its many forms) is the explanation for that which is miraculous? I know I can't explain miraculous happenings! Can you? A simple 'I don't know' doesn't cut it in my book. I'm all for accepting the fact that there are things I don't know. Things that the most learned people in the world don't know.... yet. A cure for cancer, for instance. Will a higher power come along and plant the cure for cancer in the mind of someone so that there's no more cancer? Likely not! Have there been miraculous happenings in the cancer world? Yep! Some of the most brilliant physicians in the world would tell you, "I don't believe in God, but I do believe in miracles." These double-blind study, don't-believe-in-God, brilliant human beings have witnessed miraculous happenings.

I'll count myself amongst the group of people that have realized this more recent adaptation in human evolution. When it comes to something that is simply beyond comprehension, simply unexplainable, seemingly hopeless, I will not be deterred in my search for the answer, while finding strength in a higher power to continue to look and having the faith that I may just find an answer... or perhaps experience another miracle. Now, not everybody needs to, chooses to, wants to... what-have-you... believe in such a power. They might even be okay with 'I don't know'. And that's fine. Whatever floats your boat. But as for me... I'm living in the best of both worlds!

Someone you just might know.

Unknown said...

- Hope You Read My Thank-you, tear in my eye, Thank-"Goodness", someone else out there gets it !!! }:)

Anonymous said...

"We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if mankind is to survive." Albert Einstein

I've wanted to become a part of the conversation many a time over these past weeks... but wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole! Not because I don't have an opinion, but because of the dissension it would cause. Such a thing can rob family and friends of years of togetherness. A gift I'm simply not willing to part with. Darn it all... facebook isn't anonymous enough in this case! Thanks for providing a forum for me to express my views. You're more than welcome to post it and add to your thread. Meet ya' in the middle one day ;-)

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